Re: [Colonial Numismatics] July 4th Weekend
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From: Paul Cartmill <cartmill_paul@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] July 4th Weekend
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Brilliant idea Jeff.....we should post a photo of each member ,maybe have a=
c-4 yearbook type thing or at least a page or two, being a newby i would l=
ike to have a face to put to some=C2=A0 of the names. I just read in our lo=
cal paper how some counties that had banned fireworks are allowing them thi=
s year........fireworks! now thats how to celebrate the 4th!
paul
From: Jeff Rock <Rosaamltd@aol.com>
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2011 1:31:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] July 4th Weekend
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Yes, but we remember Maris by name -- not by what he looked like!=C2=A0 The=
family was named because there is a resemblance to a living person based o=
n a single bust style on a larger family.=C2=A0 Clem will certainly be reme=
mbered for the collections he formed and what he has done for counterfeits =
in general (including putting out the CD's) -- and that kind of fame will b=
e there long after no one is around who knew what he looked like.
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Roger Moore <rogermoore435@yahoo.com> wrote=
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>Hi Jeff,=C2=A0 On the other hand we remember Maris and it is because his n=
ame has been irreversably attached to NJs.=C2=A0 Perhaps the same will occu=
r with Clem!!=C2=A0 Roger
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> From: Jeff Rock <Rosaamltd@aol.com>
>
>To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sun, July 3, 2011 1:42:55 PM
>Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] July 4th Weekend
>
>
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>Roger, that IS really the problem with the name for this family.=C2=A0 Whe=
n it was just one variety and an obverse die that really did have a resembl=
ance, it made some sort of sense -- but there are now several other dies in=
the family which have zero resemblance to Clem, which is why I think we wi=
ll need to come up with a new name for the family itself -- plus, honestly,=
if we want our work on this series to have some sort of meaning in the fut=
ure, it's silly to name them after people who aren't historic figures (we c=
an probably all agree, say, that something looks like a Washington bust, or=
a Napoleon, or even a George III bust style).=C2=A0 Imagine if someone had=
named something the "Steigerwalt Head" 100 years ago -- the people then ma=
y have had a clue, but it would have absolutely zero meaning to us today, e=
ven though some of us might recognize the name...
>
>
>On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Roger Siboni <novacaesarea@yahoo.com> wrot=
e:
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>>For all the cf guys. I know you call that a Clem Head, but it doesn't loo=
k like Clem to me. A Peck ZZ looks like Clem....especially when sporting hi=
s hair a bit longer. What's with that?=20
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>>Roger
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>>Sent from my iPhone=20
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>>On Jul 3, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Roger Moore <rogermoore435@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>=20=20
>>=C2=A0=20
>>>Here is an interesting 1776 Irish evasion and a very cool 1776 Clem Head=
.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Happy 4th!!=C2=A0 Roger
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>>>
>>>
>>> From: Clement V Schettino <copperclem@comcast.net>
>>>To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
>>>Sent: Sun, July 3, 2011 11:27:05 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] July 4th Weekend
>>>
>>>=C2=A0=20
>>>Hey Roger S, Happy Fourth!=20
>>>Happy Fourth to you all!=20
>>>Most of my 1776 dated coins are gone now but I do have a few in 'invento=
ry' ;-). One of my favorites is attached.=20
>>>Clem=20
>>>=C2=A0=20
>>>=20=20
>>>From:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com [mailto: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.=
com ] On Behalf Of Roger Siboni
>>>Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 10:13 PM
>>>To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
>>>Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] July 4th Weekend=20
>>>=C2=A0=20
>>>=C2=A0=20=20
>>>We can't let a July 4th weekend go by with out a show us your 1776 coins=
.=20=20
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>>>See attached.=20
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>>>Best,=20
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>>>Roger S.=20=20=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ar=
ial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Brilliant idea Jeff..=
...we should post a photo of each member ,maybe have a c-4 yearbook type th=
ing or at least a page or two, being a newby i would like to have a face to=
put to some of the names. I just read in our local paper how some co=
unties that had banned fireworks are allowing them this year........firewor=
ks! now thats how to celebrate the 4th!</span></div><div><span>paul</span><=
/div><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif=
; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, t=
imes, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><div style=
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ight: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class=3D"hr" contentEditable=3D=
"false" readonly=3D"true"></div><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:=
</span></b>
Jeff Rock <Rosaamltd@aol.com><br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=
;">To:</span></b> colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com<br><b><span style=3D"font-=
weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 4, 2011 1:31:05 AM<br><b><span=
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Colonial Numismatics=
] July 4th Weekend<br></font><br><div id=3D"yiv173733796">
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<div>Yes, but we remember Maris by name -- not by what he looked like=
! The family was named because there is a resemblance to a living per=
son based on a single bust style on a larger family. Clem will certai=
nly be remembered for the collections he formed and what he has done for co=
unterfeits in general (including putting out the CD's) -- and that kind of =
fame will be there long after no one is around who knew what he looked like=
.<br>
<br><div class=3D"yiv173733796gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 1:27 PM, =
Roger Moore <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:rogermoore435@yahoo.com=
" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" ymailto=3D"mailto:rogermoore435@yahoo.=
com">rogermoore435@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"=
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style: solid;" class=3D"yiv173733796gmail_quote">
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4pt;"><div>Hi Jeff, On the other hand we remember Maris and it is bec=
ause his name has been irreversably attached to NJs. Perhaps the same=
will occur with Clem!! Roger<br>
</div>
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<br>
<div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-si=
ze: 12pt; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; bord=
er-left-style: solid;"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma">
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, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class=3D"hr" contentE=
ditable=3D"false" readonly=3D"true"></div>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Jeff Rock <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:Rosaamltd@aol.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:Rosaamltd@aol.com">Rosaamltd@aol.com</a>><div class=3D"yiv173=
733796im"><br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href=
=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blan=
k" ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogr=
oups.com</a><br>
</div><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sun, July 3, 2=
011 1:42:55 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>=
Re: [Colonial Numismatics] July 4th Weekend<br></font><div><div></div><div=
class=3D"yiv173733796h5">
<br><span> </span>=20
<div>
<div>Roger, that IS really the problem with the name for this family. =
When it was just one variety and an obverse die that really did have a res=
emblance, it made some sort of sense -- but there are now several other die=
s in the family which have zero resemblance to Clem, which is why I think w=
e will need to come up with a new name for the family itself -- plus, hones=
tly, if we want our work on this series to have some sort of meaning in the=
future, it's silly to name them after people who aren't historic figures (=
we can probably all agree, say, that something looks like a Washington bust=
, or a Napoleon, or even a George III bust style). Imagine if someone=
had named something the "Steigerwalt Head" 100 years ago -- the people the=
n may have had a clue, but it would have absolutely zero meaning to us toda=
y, even though some of us might recognize the name...<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"yiv173733796gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Roge=
r Siboni <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:novacaesarea@yahoo.com" re=
l=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" ymailto=3D"mailto:novacaesarea@yahoo.com">=
novacaesarea@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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th: 1px; border-left-style: solid;" class=3D"yiv173733796gmail_quote"><u></=
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<div>For all the cf guys. I know you call that a Clem Head, but it doesn't =
look like Clem to me. A Peck ZZ looks like Clem....especially when sporting=
his hair a bit longer. What's with that?</div>
<div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Roger<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div></div>
<div>
<div><br>On Jul 3, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Roger Moore <<a href=3D"mailto:rog=
ermoore435@yahoo.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" ymailto=3D"mailto:=
rogermoore435@yahoo.com">rogermoore435@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></di=
v>
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<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;">
<div>Here is an interesting 1776 Irish evasion and a very cool 1776 Clem He=
ad. Happy 4th!! Roger<br></div>
<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;">=
<br>
<div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-si=
ze: 12pt; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; bord=
er-left-style: solid;"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma">
<div style=3D"margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204=
, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class=3D"hr" contentE=
ditable=3D"false" readonly=3D"true"></div>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Clement V Schettino =
<<a href=3D"mailto:copperclem@comcast.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_b=
lank" ymailto=3D"mailto:copperclem@comcast.net">copperclem@comcast.net</a>&=
gt;<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href=3D"mail=
to:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" ymail=
to=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com"><a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coi=
ns@yahoogroups.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" ymailto=3D"mailto:co=
lonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a><br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sun, July 3, 2011 11=
:27:05 AM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: =
[Colonial Numismatics] July 4th Weekend<br></font><br><span> </span>=20
<div>
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<div class=3D"yiv173733796MsoNormal"><font color=3D"navy" size=3D"2" face=
=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"color: navy; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;=
">Hey Roger S, Happy Fourth!</span></font></div>
<div class=3D"yiv173733796MsoNormal"><font color=3D"navy" size=3D"2" face=
=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"color: navy; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;=
">Happy Fourth to you all!</span></font></div>
<div class=3D"yiv173733796MsoNormal"><font color=3D"navy" size=3D"2" face=
=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"color: navy; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;=
">Most of my 1776 dated coins are gone now but I do have a few in 'inventor=
y' ;-). One of my favorites is attached.</span></font></div>
<div class=3D"yiv173733796MsoNormal"><font color=3D"navy" size=3D"2" face=
=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"color: navy; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;=
">Clem</span></font></div>
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=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"color: navy; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;=
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pan style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">From=
:</span></font></b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt;"> <a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroup=
s.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@=
yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a> [mailto: <a href=3D"mai=
lto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.co=
m</a> ] <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Roger=
Siboni<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, July 02, 2=
011 10:13 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bla=
nk" ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com"><a href=3D"mailto:col=
onial-coins@yahoogroups.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" ymailto=3D"=
mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a><b=
r>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Colonial Numisma=
tics] July 4th Weekend</span></font></div></div>
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=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt=
;">We can't let a July 4th weekend go by with out a show us your 1776 coins=
.</span></font></div>
</div>
<div>
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=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt=
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=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt=
;">See attached.</span></font></div></div>
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=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt=
;">Best,</span></font></div></div>
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=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt=
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